It has been quite a shock to discover so many Hyper Calvinists among Baptists outside of the Hardshell Baptist denomination. Once I left the Hardshell Baptists, I thought I had left it for good. Sadly, I have found more Hyperism and Hardshellism among Southern Baptists, those who generally identify with the "Founders Movement," or with "Reformed" doctrine.

Everywhere I turn I find these neo-Hardshells everywhere! I find men like MacArthur, Piper, White, Cook, Grudem, etc., all preaching that men are first born again and later come to faith.

I just listened to a sermon by Wayne Grudem where he spouted neo-Hardshellism, a sermon I hope to critique, in the near future. I have also listened to a debate between Gene Cook (Baptist) and Bruce Reeves of the "Church of Christ" denomination. You can listen to the debate here.

http://www.w65stchurchofchrist.org/DebatePage.html

Bruce Reeves, like Dave Hunt did against James White, showed how Cook was full of contradiction in his debate with Reeves. Cook would say that men are saved and justified "by faith," that is, after the exercise of faith, but yet he was "born again" or "regenerated" before faith. It was a glaring contradiction and one that gave Calvinism a "black eye," I am sure, to many who listened to this debate.

I also just had some discussion with Steve Camp on this same issue. Steve was writing that men are saved and justified and forgiven of sin after regeneration, but he is possessed of spiritual life before he is a believer, or is justified, or is saved!

                                                                           excerpt from an article by a "Baptist preacher"